The Q3 mystery

I am sick and I am dull and I plain. I am slow. And I  have a poor memory.

On 27 September, 2016, TRB posted what is currently the last post of FTM. I still visit FTM occasionally, to check if there's been a new posting and to read through the comments that are still being left on that last post. Comments like this, which I read last night:

Which reminded me of something. At Morrissey's recent Melbourne concert, this happened:

I thought it a bit odd at the time, but I was in the moment and I thought I'd heard the "tell me, quando, quando, quando" lyrics in EILS before. But after seeing romina's comment, I did a bit of poking around. Turns out that there is an entire FTM post from last year about the Quando thing:

Here I must add that I'm not the only one insufficiently alert to Morrissey's BRS signs, as going back to Rat's belatedly released private posts around the time of Morrissey's Manchester concert in August confirmed that he had also missed the three quandos. While FTM noted the hand gestures and chesticular plaster, we all appear to have missed another Qx3 moment, although it was picked-up by some hack in NME and others like writers of the Black Wax blog:

It should have been for the amusement of the BRS, but we appear to have missed it. Here it is:

But here's where I'm going to introduce a twist. Maybe there's a good reason for me to have missed the significance of the Q3 lyric at Melbourne and for the BRS to ignore it at Manchester. That's because Q3 appears to be sung so often. A quick trawl through some 2016 renditions of EILS presents these moments at Berlin, Tokyo, Singapore and the Caesarea Amphitheater etc. Rat will come out of his silent stupor to correct me if I'm wrong about this, but I'm pretty sure that BRS members weren't at all these gigs. Or, is Morrissey just constantly referencing the BRS during this song, so much so that it has become the norm and passes without comment?

Maybe it's just another example of hiding in plain sight? Maybe Moz just enjoys the lyric, which means "Why, why, why" (which, of course, if also featured in IWSYIFOP). The fact that the song was originally Italian and Moz has gone through his Rome period and the Humperdink version was a single lifted off on album called A Man Without Love is enough (and it does sound quite nice, too).

I don't know where this leaves the BRS on the Q3 phenomenon, but I'm prepared to go where the evidence takes me. And it leads me now to SoLow, where Quando quando qando joined as a member in September and has been quite active:

Gustavo's salute

What would I notice without my BRS friends? Not much, it appears. Again, a BRS member has alerted me to "a sign".

Gustavo Manzure Jnr's backstage collapse triggered the cancellation of the Boulder gig and Morrissey took to the stage to give a heartfelt apology. On behalf of the Blue Rose Society I take this opportunity to wish Gustavo a speedy recovery and a return to full health.

Gustavo collapsed!!! Waiting!!!! Send prayers!!! #bertababe #morrissey #moz #moztour2016 #denvernightlife

A video posted by Alberta (@bertalynnonly) on Nov 14, 2016 at 8:18pm PST

But as @girlwithout points out, there is something else happening here and that's probably only something that the BRS understands. As anyone at all familiar with the MW/BRS story knows, we believe that Morrissey is giving us signs by hand gesture. It's a game that we like to play. But lately it's also been the band members giving signs, in particular the two-fingered salute, which can be read many ways (there's nothing like plausible deniability): an innocent gesture of peace and goodwill, an "up yours", a symbol for victory, a symbol of membership of a secret society, the Master Number of 11.

So it's interesting that days after bassist Mando Lopez published a couple of Instagram photos featuring the V finger gesture (thereby following Morrissey's own Singapore V gesture), now Gustavo is photographed by Mando giving much the same gesture from his hospital bed, as posted on TTY. It could mean that he's OK. It could be a BRS sign that now the whole Morrissey Band are in on the BRS fun. Note also the Morrissey-esque the finger lingerie :)

15 November 2016
Boulder
Gustavo Manzur collapsed and was hospitalized two hours before the band were due on stage at Boulder in Colorado.
Morrissey made an on stage announcement and the sell-out crowd were greatly understanding and supportive.
Gustavo is recuperating today. Doctors have advised one week of rest.
Gustavo and the band are determined to make the shows at Detroit, Cleveland and Chicago.
Photograph is by Mando Lopez

A different photo, with Gustavo giving a thumbs up, was posted on his FB page, along with a beautifully written post:

This is, perhaps, a game of ping-pong, like that played out between Morrissey and Marr. If it's not, then maybe we can make it that. I suggest that members of the BRS comment on Morrissey Band-related social media posts with a hand gesture with a reciprocating hand gesture, like this:  ✌ or 👍 or 👌 as appropriate.

Then let's see if it continues.

#MozInMelb Pt.III

Morrissey's recent visit to Melbourne keeps giving to the Blue Rose Society.

I attended Morrissey's Festival Hall concert on 22 October, 2016. My thrown blue rose was not caught etc, but you can read all about that elsewhere.

Then came the photo on bass player Mando's Instagram account wherein the trapped deer repeated the hidden eye gesture used as the profile pic on my Twitter account, whilst in my own home town. Well, that same photo has now cropped up on TTY:

Note how the trapped deer's fingers make out two 11s!

Such a little thing, but lOOk at the date. It's crucial to remember that, amid the (self) parody, concepts of hidden meanings and Illuminati signatures are vital to the MW phenomenon and to understanding the Blue Rose Society.

The TTY post is dated 11 November 2016 (11.11.16), which is quite some several days, ancient oceans and continents crossed and numerous concerts after Morrissey's visit to Melbourne where and when the photo was taken by members of his entourage. Why the delay?

11 has some kind of significance in the occult and numerology and is accepted as a sign of the Illuminati. Hence things like 9/11 and the 11th hour on the 11th day of the 11th month (Remembrance Day, the end of the War To End All Wars (sic)) are of special significance because the 11s. I would link you through to a website that explained all this, but so far all the ones I've found are (appropriately enough) rambling word salads that leave me more exasperated than enlightened. New Age types seem to think it's a positive sign, while others think it's a sign of the AntiChrist (yet, these opposing views may not be as mutually exclusive as they seem). Enough to note that some of YouTube's brightest thinkers made a lot of the (brilliant and breathtaking) movie Arrival (that left me in Life Is A Pigsty-type tears on Saturday morning in a cinema with 3 other people) being released on 11 November 2016.

Don't forget that on 4 November, 2016, Morrissey's guitarist Jesse Tobias posted on his Instragram account a photograph on him gesturing with an (Illuminati, MW, BRS-related) V, or as I'll refer to it here, an 11.

OK, I've found a vid on the Master Number 11 (it's a visual word salad, but you can mute the sound and listen to November Spawn A Monster instead - oh, I've never thought of that song in this context before, but it's very MW, come to think of it):

By the way, I present  this comment for your imagination, as left on the 221016 Morrissey In Melbourne post on this blob: